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The poll is not there for any purpose other than just to see some numbers, as you know as well as we do not everyone goes on this site.
We are not being underhanded about things, what is it that some people cannot grasp?, we made the proposal on the back of the current MKTPL committee members resigning so thought that if it was going to fold we would keep players playing by offering an alternative but myself and Stuart are only prepared to run a Blackball league, why would we want to run a WR league when we prefer Blackball?
If the MKTPL continues, which would be great news, I would still consider running a BB league if there was enough interest.
It seems to me that some people are more interested in keeping the WR league going to prevent a BB league starting. I'm one of many players that prefer BB but am happy to play both and not get caught up in the politics of pool.
Stu and I are not stopping or trying to hinder the continuation of MKTPL as a world rules league, so please have the same courtesy and respect for others that make alternative proposals. We've put another option out there, we are not that naive to think everyone will like the option but it is an option. If you are one of the players who wants MKTPL to stay WR that's fine but you would be better spending your time working towards that rather than focusing on what we are doing regarding a Blackball league.
As stu stated earlier 'fact is that world rules is there for the few that are interested in county, yarmouth etc... the majority want a league that is much more open and ran with efficiency. Auto update tables and rankings, better comps, no deliberate fouls.
For years a lot of you that may protest about this have been protesting about how the league has ran, who runs it, lack of competition...
Maria and I are not out to spoil anyones fun, just giving you all options...
Everything is voluntary so we are suggesting this to revamp an otherwise failing league'
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This is not hard to understand, the league looked like it was going to fold.
I have no interest in running epa league.
If tuesday pool was in danger of going then rather than have nothing, we would have OFFERED to run a blackball league.
Everyone is free to choose what they like...
The poll is there to do what polls are for, a consensus of opinion..
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JammyJim wrote:
You say it sounds like a dictatorship but in a earlier post Stu says "we will only want a blackball league" which sounds pretty similar to me*yes*
You don't hear tone of voice when debating on here so it will be good at the AGM to get everybody's ideas in the same room*tup*
Correct I cannot hear any tone of voice...and Stu "we will only want a blackball league" is referring to that is what we will run, if it is to remain as WR we will not want to be part of running it. So if there was no interest in BB then we wouldn't start running one. If there was a BB League would you want to be part of running it?
Like both, Stu and I have said, 'It's an option' and one we put out there when all the current committee was resigning. But now we have made our proposal known it's amazing how quickly resignations are withdrawn and new committee members in the pipeline.
As previously said, 'it's nothing personal' and I don't wish to make it so. We proposed it when it looked like the MKTPL was looking likely to fold and we offered this option that we are prepared to undertake and keep people playing pool.
There is enough politics between the two rulesets, lets not bring this into our own leagues. Look forward to the AGM.
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You say it sounds like a dictatorship but in a earlier post Stu says "we will only want a blackball league" which sounds pretty similar to me*yes*
You don't hear tone of voice when debating on here so it will be good at the AGM to get everybody's ideas in the same room*tup*
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bowden wrote:
Just to inform everyone, i will be continueing to run the league on a Tuesday night. I will be arranging a agm in the near furture and everyone will be invited to attend. I will be opening posistions up on the committee, in which i already have people interested. This league will remain a world rules league as far as i am concerened. This matter can be discussed at the agm if you wish
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Nick
Nick, I thought you was quitting and taking time out from pool; have you come out of retirement to save the league? :) Stuart and I was proposing Blackball league if there was no one to run the WR league, not to cause animosity but offer an alternative. I appreciate that as far as you are concerned the league will remain a worlds rule league which sounds like dictatorship to me and should be a vote at the AGM for the players to decide, but in one respect you are correct the MKTPL will remain a world rules league because if it changed to Blackball we would rename the league.
Whilst it has been acknowledged that 2 different leagues on the same name is not ideal, if there are enough players interested I would consider running a Blackball league on Tuesday evenings regardless of whether the MKTPL continues or folds. This is nothing personal against, you or any other individual or the league or world rules but I and there are other players who would like to play Blackball. We are not anti WR and do play them.
Look forward to the AGM, is there a likely date?
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that is what i am talking about jimmy
If you have a division of blackball and a division of world rules there would be No point in promotion/relegation.... If you want both sets of rules on the same evening it would need to be two separate leagues.
bottom line is that you all have a choice and so can choose what ever you prefer...
There is nothing stopping us have a division of blackball rules and a division of world rules...
Fact is that world rules is there for the few that are interested in county, yarmouth etc... the majority want a league that is much more open and ran with efficiency. Auto update tables and rankings, better comps, no deliberate fouls.
For years a lot of you that may protest about this have been protesting about how the league has ran, who runs it, lack of competition...
Maria and I are not out to spoil anyones fun, just giving you all options...
Everything is voluntary so we are suggesting this to revamp an otherwise failing league
Good move people. From the little i've seen, the Buckingham league has changed to BB seamlessly.
Also, I wouldn't worry too much about the EPA's 50% rule for WR County players - it's not policed. And for all their faults, they are not likely to hinder one of the smallest counties in the country (registration wise).
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Just to inform everyone, i will be continueing to run the league on a Tuesday night. I will be arranging a agm in the near furture and everyone will be invited to attend. I will be opening posistions up on the committee, in which i already have people interested. This league will remain a world rules league as far as i am concerened. This matter can be discussed at the agm if you wish
Thanks
Nick
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Knightrider wrote:
If this league goes to Blackball, then all those MK based players that play for Buckinghamshire EPA County (World Rules) will need to sign up to play for a Sunday night league team, in order to qualify playing for their county. You need to play minimum of 50% of available matches in an EPA affiliated league. So if you currently only play on Tuesdays and not Sundays you will need to join a Sunday team or start a new one up. Dave Morgan is currently trying to get new Sunday teams for the up coming season, so now is your chance.
This is not scare mongering in any way, good luck to who ever takes over the running of this league and under which set of rules it plays under. The more successful leagues there are the more pool players that will be generated and hopefully more come through to county level whichever code. I'm all for what ever keeps pool going as a sport and encouraging more youngsters to play.
My point is that if you wish to play at county level -World rules then need to play in a league which is affiliated to the EPA. Not sure if this league goes to Blackball rules if they would want to be affiliated to EPA?
As you know it is not Blackball that would not want to affiliate with the EPA but the EPA won't affiliate with Blackball but I'm not getting into the politics of things. If the league does change to BB then from what you say WR county players will have to play in the Sunday league or any league that is affiliated to the EPA, I take it this could be any league. Blackball county players do not have to play in an affiliated league.
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smithy wrote:
hi what about the players that dont play blackball surely more don't play at this moment in time
Smithy, as you say 'at this moment', but it will always remain that way if there is no change. Our aim is not to just set up a Blackball league but to keep the Tuesday League running albeit with different rules.
We are not looking at taking advantage of players because they don't know the rules or never played them, we are willing to go to players venue and go through the rules and play some frames. The first season will also see some agreement that would be discussed and agreed at the AGM to assist current non Blackball players. We appreciate and understand that it is a change, but the rules are not drastically different and they are easier to learn than World rules albeit you already know and play World rules and change is not something that everyone likes but there was a time when the league was Old EPA rules and you all managed to cope with the change over to World rules.
The league will bring some challenges along with some new and exciting mini comps during a season.
If the Blackball league does go ahead then in the future we will look at tying it in with the Blackball Nationals, similar to the current World rules where it is linked to Champion of Champions.
Like Stuart said, this is our proposal for the Tuesday league if there is no one to take over and run it as World rules.
Stuart and I will be going around to local pubs in the evening on Sunday 4th Sept.
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If this league goes to Blackball, then all those MK based players that play for Buckinghamshire EPA County (World Rules) will need to sign up to play for a Sunday night league team, in order to qualify playing for their county. You need to play minimum of 50% of available matches in an EPA affiliated league. So if you currently only play on Tuesdays and not Sundays you will need to join a Sunday team or start a new one up. Dave Morgan is currently trying to get new Sunday teams for the up coming season, so now is your chance.
This is not scare mongering in any way, good luck to who ever takes over the running of this league and under which set of rules it plays under. The more successful leagues there are the more pool players that will be generated and hopefully more come through to county level whichever code. I'm all for what ever keeps pool going as a sport and encouraging more youngsters to play.
My point is that if you wish to play at county level -World rules then need to play in a league which is affiliated to the EPA. Not sure if this league goes to Blackball rules if they would want to be affiliated to EPA?
hi what about the players that dont play blackball surely more dont play at this moment in time
